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Outshined

Soundgarden

A slow, heavy drop D riff in 7/4 with a Sabbath-like murk.

What is the Outshined guitar tone?

The Outshined guitar tone is a slow, heavy drop D riff in 7/4 with a Sabbath-like murk, heard on Soundgarden's 1990s grunge recording. It is a distorted riff tone, and Soundgarden reportedly tracked it with the Guild S-100 that Kim Thayil told Guitar World he was still using on Badmotorfinger, with Chris Cornell, who wrote the song and plays rhythm guitar on it, offsetting his sound so they did not get the same tones on a song, perhaps with a Fender, though no source read here names either guitar or the amp on this take; asked whether they used Peaveys, Music Mans and Mesa/Boogies, Thayil said probably, that the band endorsed Peavey for a while and made pretty radical amp settings, sometimes turning off the treble to make it sound warmer; Wikipedia says the song is in D major, played in drop D tuning, with the verses in 7/4, a meter Thayil says came about by total accident, and AllMusic's Steve Huey hears a main riff that strongly recalls the heavy murk of prime Black Sabbath; Thayil told Guitar World that he naturally plays behind the beat on Outshined, dragging it because it sounds a bit heavier, with Matt Cameron accenting the groove towards his playing; Terry Date produced the album with the band, and Cornell wrote the line I'm looking California and feeling Minnesota on tour, thinking it was the dumbest thing until crowds screamed it back; the second single from Badmotorfinger, it was the band's first to reach Billboard's Album Rock Tracks chart, peaking at number 45, and Thayil was unhappy that his guitar solo was cut to make the video single-length. The point here is a raw, barely controlled tone, so cleaning it up too much moves it away from the record rather than towards it.

You do not need that exact gear to land in the same place. What carries this sound is the gain structure, the EQ curve, the pickup choice and the order of the effects, and all four can be rebuilt on equipment that costs a fraction of the original. The numbers change from amp to amp, because a high-gain head and a small practice amp reach the same voicing from different knob positions. That translation is what Tonelify works out for the rig you actually own.

Outshined amp settings: a starting point

On a generic five-knob amp, start at Gain 6, Bass 6, Middle 4, Treble 6, Presence 5, Reverb 2, with the bridge pickup.

  • Gain 6
  • Bass 6
  • Middle 4
  • Treble 6
  • Presence 5
  • Reverb 2
Signal chain
Amp distortion, rig not documented
The control that matters most
Feel behind the beat. The riff is a slow drop D figure in 7/4, so tune down, set a thick, driven sound with the treble backed off rather than a bright one, and play slightly behind the beat, which Thayil says he does on this song because it sounds heavier.

These positions are free and they are a starting point. A Katana, a Spark and a valve head reach this voicing from different knob positions, so Tonelify rewrites every value above for the amp and guitar you own. A first plan starts with 7 days free, $0 today.

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Pickup
Bridge pickup

These are positions on a generic five-knob amp with gain, bass, middle, treble and presence, each running 0 to 10. They are a starting point, not the settings used on the record, and they will not transfer unchanged to an amp with a different gain structure or EQ voicing. If you tell Tonelify which amp you own, it rewrites every value above for the controls that amp actually has.

Does the Outshined tone sound off on your amp?

Pick what you hear. You get the knobs to turn from the starting point above, and how far.

What gear did Soundgarden use on Outshined?

The Guild S-100 that Kim Thayil told Guitar World he was still using on Badmotorfinger, with Chris Cornell, who wrote the song and plays rhythm guitar on it, offsetting his sound so they did not get the same tones on a song, perhaps with a Fender, though no source read here names either guitar or the amp on this take; asked whether they used Peaveys, Music Mans and Mesa/Boogies, Thayil said probably, that the band endorsed Peavey for a while and made pretty radical amp settings, sometimes turning off the treble to make it sound warmer; Wikipedia says the song is in D major, played in drop D tuning, with the verses in 7/4, a meter Thayil says came about by total accident, and AllMusic's Steve Huey hears a main riff that strongly recalls the heavy murk of prime Black Sabbath; Thayil told Guitar World that he naturally plays behind the beat on Outshined, dragging it because it sounds a bit heavier, with Matt Cameron accenting the groove towards his playing; Terry Date produced the album with the band, and Cornell wrote the line I'm looking California and feeling Minnesota on tour, thinking it was the dumbest thing until crowds screamed it back; the second single from Badmotorfinger, it was the band's first to reach Billboard's Album Rock Tracks chart, peaking at number 45, and Thayil was unhappy that his guitar solo was cut to make the video single-length.

Sources: Guitar World: Kim Thayil on Badmotorfinger at 30, Guitar World: Kim Thayil on Badmotorfinger and the heavy, dark and psychedelic, Rolling Stone: Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger at 25, Kim Thayil looks back, Wikipedia: Outshined, Wikipedia: Badmotorfinger

Tonelify's tone matcher reads that chain and translates it to the amp and guitar you already own, returning gain, bass, mids, treble and presence values along with a pickup position.

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Outshined tone questions

What amp settings do you need for Outshined?

On a generic five-knob amp, start at Gain 6, Bass 6, Middle 4, Treble 6, Presence 5, Reverb 2, with the bridge pickup. These are positions on a generic five-knob amp with gain, bass, middle, treble and presence, each running 0 to 10. They are a starting point, not the settings used on the record, and they will not transfer unchanged to an amp with a different gain structure or EQ voicing. Tonelify rewrites the same values for the specific amp and guitar you own, because a high-gain head and a small solid-state combo reach the same slow, heavy drop D riff in 7/4 with a Sabbath-like murk from different positions.

What amp did Chris Cornell and Kim Thayil use on Outshined?

Amp: Not documented; Peavey, Music Man and Mesa/Boogie amps were in use at the time. Guitar: Kim Thayil's Guild S-100, his main guitar on the album; Cornell's not documented. Sources: Guitar World, Rolling Stone and Wikipedia.

What were Chris Cornell and Kim Thayil's amp settings on Outshined?

None of the sources cited on this page gives Chris Cornell and Kim Thayil's full amp settings on Outshined. The numbers here are a starting point for that kind of part, not the settings from the session, and Tonelify rewrites them for the amp and guitar you own.

How do you get Chris Cornell and Kim Thayil's tone on Outshined?

Feel behind the beat. The riff is a slow drop D figure in 7/4, so tune down, set a thick, driven sound with the treble backed off rather than a bright one, and play slightly behind the beat, which Thayil says he does on this song because it sounds heavier. Play it with the bridge pickup.

What tuning is Outshined in?

Drop D: D A D G B E, low string to high, according to Wikipedia.

Source: Wikipedia: Outshined

Can you get the Outshined tone without the original gear?

Yes. The parts that define the sound are the gain structure, the EQ curve, the pickup position and the effects order, and those translate to other equipment. Tonelify's adaptation step works them out for the amp and guitar you own.

Does Tonelify cost anything to try?

A match for your own gear takes a plan, and a first plan starts with 7 days free with nothing charged that day: Stage is $6.99 a month for 20 matches, Headliner is $10.99 a month for unlimited matching within a fair use limit of 150 new matches a day, and yearly billing works out cheaper on both. Reading this page and the rest of the library costs nothing and needs no account.

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